Cosmic Worlds

by Anissa
(Submitted 02-03-2021)

Where can I find a more in depth explanation of the different "worlds" that Laurency describes?

The question "In what resepects to the 49 cosmic world differ from each other?"

From highest
1-7
8-14
15-21
22-28
29-35
36-42
43-49 to lowest

The differences would be dimension, duration, material composition, motion and consciousness; the "lowest" world is the physical world and contains all 48 "higher" worlds.

If the lowest world 49 is the physical world (bhu), and there is a potential progression to the higher worlds, 48-43 (emotional, causal-mental, essential, superessential, submanifestal, manifestal), what is the force guiding that progession? Is this dynamis?

Also, HTL states that world 49:5-7 is the world visible to man. Does this include the phenomena that is visible to our technology but not to our human senses? Are the worlds 49:2-4 "visible" to us in any capacity?
Is the causal world observable?



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Sep 28, 2021
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by: Tom Cribbs

>The differences would be dimension

The dimensions increase from lowest physical plane to higher worlds. So the astral (emotional) world, 48th plane is said to have four dimensions experienced by consciousness. Though Laurency said that "line and area are not counted" in dimensions so the physical world is one dimensional and astral becomes two dimensional in his terminology.

>duration

I'm a bit confused on duration and time in esoterics. I get the sense that as you rise higher in the planes you are approaching more towards the "center" of your being and the planetary and solar system being, and as such the consciousness experience is "timeless" from that higher vantage point. From that point you can see events on the physical plane as if by a film reel (in the Akashic records). Can pause, rewind, go forward again and insert your consciousness into that lower world memory that the great collective consciousness holds.

> material composition

All of the higher world matter interpenetrates the lower world matter. The physical plane has a locale in the astral world that is a near complete overlap to the forms in the physical world, yet the astral has one extra dimension so is immensely larger in scope of total forms. The mental world is still larger and encompasses all ideas ever pondered as material forms.

> motion and consciousness

The higher worlds are "energy" relative to the lower worlds, even as they possess material forms and consciousness. So they can cause the lower plane matter to have motion, and because of the greater dimensions in higher worlds the consciousness is that much more colossal than consciousness in the lowest plane.

> Is this dynamis?

Yes, I would assume so. The cosmic consciousness is so great and powerful that it appears capable of bringing in as much primordial atoms into the system as it feels necessary to raise the consciousness of atoms in the cosmos.

>Also, HTL states that world 49:5-7 is the world visible to man. Does this include the phenomena that is visible to our technology but not to our human senses? Are the worlds 49:2-4 "visible" to us in any capacity?

In Alice Bailey Master DK says that in the future humanity will develop etheric level consciousness and these higher levels of the physical world will become visible. Nuclear power is actually said to be a part of the etherization process of the planet to allow for this increased consciousness.

> Is the causal world observable?

The causal world is observable with full causal consciousness, usually only developed after the third initiation into the Hierarchy of the planet.
Sep 14, 2021
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by: Bo

@ Alex

Alex, In my quick look at Bladons’ book charts, and also some of his text, I saw many"red flags" and also vast differences between Bladon and Laurency, and this reminded me of warnings found in Laurency, that misdirection by many publications is inevitable in our world of today.

It is good to read what we find interesting, or helpful, and we are free to prefer it, but we also collect baggage from the results of our focus, which can slow down progress of a lifetime.

Pythagorean Hylozoics is not seeking members or followers, because the real journey out of illusionism requires sacrifice of so much baggage.

Bo
Sep 14, 2021
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by: Bo

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Cosmic Worlds
by Anissa

A: Where can I find a more in depth explanation of the different "worlds" that Laurency describes?

B: In general, the ‘worlds’ refer to all of existence in many consecutive stages, where monads involve and evolve. Most of the Laurency and Adelskogh books explain particular "world" aspects, and the reasoning for this is that mankind is aware of so little of it, and even some experienced adepts know of only limited "worlds", especially the "emotional world", and then think that the "emotional world" contains all "worlds", while this "emotional world" is but a minuscule part of all existence, and the "emotional world" is mostly based on strongly maintained illusions of many who maintain individual parts of that "world".

A: The question "In what resepects to the 49 cosmic world differ from each other?"

From highest
1-7
8-14
15-21
22-28
29-35
36-42
43-49 to lowest

B: These worlds differ in the organs and skills of perception used to perceive them, and are invisible looking from lower to higher worlds, but visible looking from higher worlds to lower worlds. We can compare humans looking at lower animal, plant, vegetable and mineral kingdoms, for a sense of the differences, and how lower consciousness can not understand everything in us. Differences are less visible, when looking upwards, and therefore mostly inexplicable; except however, where hylozoic facts are studied progressively, and the mind corroborates more and more facts together, sensibly balancing emotional-physical with mind in each fact studied; and also, manages to displace the illusive fictions which previously misinformed us about each fact; and, to entertain this process hypothetically, and thereby one can gradually sort out how this so, even based on one’s personal experience of life, as energy follows thought.


A: The differences would be dimension, duration, material composition, motion and consciousness; the "lowest" world is the physical world and contains all 48 "higher" worlds.

A: If the lowest world 49 is the physical world (bhu), and there is a potential progression to the higher worlds, 48-43 (emotional, causal-mental, essential, superessential, submanifestal, manifestal), what is the force guiding that progession? Is this dynamis?

B: Yes, but lower worlds see dynamis in an already diluted form and so one can misinterpret pure dynamis. Lower worlds may too easily equate dynamis to moving matter, and we humans have designated moving matter as energy. Our guidance indicates that consciousness–matter–motion are inseparable, and that mankind needs to masterfully balance these, where consciousness becomes freed from illusionism in this balance. Higher perceptions are said to come naturally, if the knowledge is studied, understood and applied, correctly, but only lawfully in the hylozoics sense.

A: Also, HTL states that world 49:5-7 is the world visible to man. Does this include the phenomena that is visible to our technology but not to our human senses? Are the worlds 49:2-4 "visible" to us in any capacity?
Is the causal world observable?

B: I think that some electronic functions interact with the etheric phenomena which can also act upon electronics, and this is just barely beginning an understanding of physical-etheric phenomena, (hylozoically). Pythagorean Hylozoics says mankind has received all of its scientific gifts, (for free, or "for nothing"), and otherwise we would still be primitive, and this may be a natural ingredient of knowledge unfolding, and very gradually as we develop our life, so as not to risk exploitation by the greedy who get stuck in lower consciousness, lower emotionality and lower physicality for eons. At some point this direction is pointless and abandoned.

B: The causal world is preliminarily developed in the human stage, but provides tons of advancement even in the human stage; and, it is expediently developed by book study along with real life serving which we can best ascertain is supported by the book study, because doing so involves the advancement of consciousness–matter–motion, and the advancement of the mental–emotional–physical. A necessary start is good study habits. It is so easy today, to look up words repeatedly if we need to, and to search for Pythagorean Hylozoic definitions online, or if one can download PDFs, to word search them off line.

Bo

PS- What does "(bhu)" mean?
Aug 03, 2021
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by: Anonymous anissa

I'm working through the Philosopher's Stone and this has helped. Looking back, I probably should have started with this text before taking on the KoR. I'll take a look at your suggestion, thank you.
Feb 06, 2021
 @Anissa
by: Alex

Hi! I just bought an incredible book called "The Science of Spirituality" from Lee Bladon. You will find everything you need in this book, incl. Laurency. Cheers, Alex

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